"family planning". translation: contraception. hey...CAN'T WE BE MATURE ENOUGH TO CALL A SPADE A SPADE, FOR CRYIN' OUT LOUD? ARRGHH!!!
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Wed, December 15, 2004 - 8:44 PMhmm... i don't know that i would call "family planning" a euphemism for contraception. in most circles that use the term family planning, contraception is thought of as mechanical and chemical barriers, where family planning is thought of as abstinence and planning sex during a woman's monthly cycle to "avoid conception". (Same thing as contraception to me but not according to the family planners...) so while i agree with you that contraception is tip-toed around, especially in the education system, i think the term family planning raises even larger, perhaps more alarming issues, i.e. neglecting the full range of options.
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Re: your most detested bullshit euphemism
Mon, December 20, 2004 - 7:26 PMcan't family planning also include heart to hearts with those you may choose to concieve with...deciding the ins and outs of timing, fiscal responsibility and all of those things too? the psychological ascept of havin' little babies? -
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Tue, December 21, 2004 - 3:07 PMYes. I would much rather have a planned than an unplanned family. -
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Wed, July 20, 2005 - 6:42 PMHmm, thread didn't quite go the way you expected, Holden? :-)
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Wed, December 15, 2004 - 9:37 PMi detest the phrase 'passed away'. if someone is dead, he or she is dead. dead. deceased, if need be, i suppose... but really, the word is dead.
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Wed, December 15, 2004 - 10:18 PMhow about just about everything that comes from the spinmeisters at the white house -
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Wed, December 15, 2004 - 11:41 PMI'd agree with Samba -- especially 'illegal combatants' or what ever they're calling their prisoners of war to get round the inconvenience of the Geneva convention. -
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Wed, December 15, 2004 - 11:43 PMOn a lighter note (and perhaps one slightl closer to the original meaning of the posting) my pet hate at the moment is the phrase 'social engineering', when used as an explanation for viruses spreading -- 'stupidity' would be a far more honest way of putting it. -
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Mon, December 27, 2004 - 12:55 AMI would actually aver that 'social engineering' is not a euphemism at all. The term generally relates to propaganda etc. (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soci...science%29 ) or computer security (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soci...ecurity%29 ), and it does not mean 'stupidity'--it actually means the near-opposite: 'cleverness'.
Just as engineers solve problems of how to best design bridges and airplanes and such, social engineers confront problems that are important to them for whatever reason (generally perverse): how to best exploit people's weaknesses and/or gain their trust, so as to take advantage of them in some way. The most secure computer system in the entire world could still be broken into by someone clever enough to fool the right people into granting them access.
Modern email viruses now have far more social engineering put into them than older ones did, and they will continue to get cleverer as the general public gets more wary of viruses and common ploys.
One of the most famous computer crackers, Kevin Mitnick, was a skilled social engineer who would routinely fool people into divulging information or granting him access to places he didn't belong. If there's another term that's synonymous for 'social engineer', it would probably be 'con man'.
Of course, you could call the people who fall for these tricks 'stupid' if you like, but 'naive' is probably the harshest word I'd use. I doubt there are many of us here who could claim to have never been 'socially engineered' in some way. But please don't call us the 'socially engineered' or 'judgementally challenged'! ;)
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Fri, April 1, 2005 - 6:20 AMAlthough it may be a euphemism to some, the term "unlawful combatant" has been around for over a century and has been part of U. S. law since the Supreme Court decision in Ex Parte Quirin, 317 U.S. 1 (1942). It was not an invention of the Bush administration.
Moreover, although the term "unlawful combatant" does not appear in any of the Geneva Conventions, the concept certainly does. Articles 4 and 5 of the Third Convention specifically distinguish between persons who are entitled to the treatment associated with "prisoner of war" status and persons who are not.
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Tue, April 5, 2005 - 10:21 PM"ethnic cleansing" for "genocide"
Talk about using the bad guy's term (invented by the serbs for Kosovo) to describe horror. I heard this term the other day on NPR, describing a situation in Western Africa!! -
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Thu, July 21, 2005 - 6:47 PMisnt it 'cleansing' because the people who do it consider it to be a good thing, like litter picking or immunisation?
so why try desensatize the meaning. we all fuckin know what genocide is.
but i hear that bad guy term on the news, and for some reason its easier to hear.
i want to throw up.
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Thu, December 16, 2004 - 9:23 PMhear, hear!
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Tue, February 8, 2005 - 12:41 PMI like the phrase 'returned to non-physical' myself. :)
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Wed, April 6, 2005 - 12:14 PM>>he or she is dead. dead. deceased,
He is pushing up the daisies! He is an EX-PARROT!!
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Wed, April 6, 2005 - 1:26 PMHas anybody mentioned medical marijuana?
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Wed, July 20, 2005 - 6:43 PMAww, you beat me to it! *walks away, with hands shoved in pockets, head down* -
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Wed, July 20, 2005 - 6:44 PMthe reference to the ex-parrot, that is
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Sun, June 12, 2005 - 5:31 PM"passed away"
..I AGREE, orange! I also detest euphemisms that glorify tedious and often awful jobs, i.e. "sales representative" - clerk! -
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Sun, June 26, 2005 - 1:53 PMAgreed. Where I work we have "front office staff" instead of receptionists.
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Mon, March 19, 2007 - 6:02 PMAssociate! They aren't employees any more, they are associates. I hate that one.
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Thu, March 8, 2007 - 1:40 AMRe: your most detested bullshit euphemismWed, December 15, 2004 - 9:37 PM
i detest the phrase 'passed away'. if someone is dead, he or she is dead. dead. deceased, if need be, i suppose... but really, the word is dead.
(in general, i HATE cliche euphemisms and LOVE making up my own euphemisms.)
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That actor: Henry Morgan in "Support your local Sheriff"
Olly was the role::
Mayor Ollie Perkins: I wanted you to meet my daughter, Sheriff. She's a good cook, a mighty fine looking girl. Takes after her dear, departed mother.
Jason McCullough: Mother died, huh?
Mayor Ollie Perkins: Nope, she just departed.
Ha, hee hee,
Victor
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Thu, December 16, 2004 - 10:18 PMcasualty (as in war...)--- is a bullshit euphemism. -
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Fri, December 17, 2004 - 1:17 AMEuphemism? Can you think of a better word for 'dead, wounded, or captured' than 'casualty'? If it's a euphemism, it's an old enough one, and its meaning clear enough, that it doesn't bother me.
But how about "friendly fire"?
Actually I think I would call that more ironic than euphemistic. If they called them "unplanned troop strength reductions", that'd be a doozy.
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Fri, December 17, 2004 - 7:54 AM"Collateral damage"
"Post traumatic stress disorder" (have you heard George Carlin on this? In WWII it was "battle fatigue" and in WWI "shellshock." What's the strongest phrase?)
"Broken home"
I will probably think of others later. I hate the phrase "out of wedlock" but I'm not sure if it is a euphemism in this sense. Marriage as prison - blech! -
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Fri, December 17, 2004 - 3:02 PMThat's funny, Samantha! As soon as I read the post about "friendly fire", my mind went immediately to that George Carlin bit about PTSD. I remember he mentioned something about adding more syllables with each incarnation of the disorder.
Nice reference!
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Mon, July 11, 2005 - 5:16 PMActually, believe it or not, I've been told not to use "broken home" because it's considered offensive! As a teacher, I say bullshit. If you're going to cause one of the most traumatic things that can happen to a child, which has ripple effects in all areas of that child's life, then you shouldn't be upset when people call a spade a spade. You broke up your family unit, so it's a broken home. End of story. It's not the same to call it a "single-parent household" because it doesn't distinguish between the unfortunate but unplanned death of a spouse and the willful decision to just stop trying.
Oops, soapbox mode off. I'm just tired of seeing the effects of divorce and being told I have to pussy-foot around the parents so they don't feel guilty about the fact that Johnny is now starting fights and failing when he used to be just fine....
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Fri, December 17, 2004 - 9:16 AMWhat about "improvised explosive device". What's the difference between that and a bomb? Even if you pronounce bomb as Inspector Clouseau? -
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Fri, December 17, 2004 - 12:34 PMThis calls to mind the Frontline presentation from last month. They had the spinmeister on who came up with the phrase, "climate change" to use in place of "global warming." That guy was such an ass. And he gets paid to obscure meaning! Aaaaahhhh!!!
Beyond euphemism is all the doublespeak going on when speaking of the war in Iraq. The danger increases over there, and the Bush tells us, "We've been given hills to climb." Hills are pretty easy to traverse; the analogy just doesn't work.
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Thu, March 1, 2007 - 8:50 AMNot a "difference" but a subset: all IEDs are bombs, but not all bombs are IEDs. It's useful to have a word for just the subset: if a bunch of soldiers got killed by a "bomb", you don't know if it was dropped out of a plane or hidden in a trash can, but if they got killed by an IED, you know.
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Sun, November 12, 2006 - 10:34 PMAs Gil Scott-Heron has said, there's nothing casual about being a casualty.
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Re: your most detested bullshit euphemism
Fri, December 17, 2004 - 1:47 PMA certain Clintonism comes to mind...
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Thu, March 24, 2005 - 4:46 PM"plausible deniability" is not a Clintonism. It's a CIA-ism that goes back to the 1950s. It describes an operation with an informal command structure so that, in the event of something going wrong, it can be denied. Iran-Contra was probably a very good example of plausible deniability in action. (It's hard to say for sure because it was denied at the highest level... plausibly... or at least plausibly enough.)
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Thu, March 8, 2007 - 1:44 AM
How about "(RE)appropreated"
We appropreated a T.V. or arranged/ acquired transportation....(YOU mean you STOLE THHE CAR)
Victor
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Fri, December 17, 2004 - 2:30 PM"War on Drugs" == The biggest law enforcement budgets in history, the most sweeping and intrusive police powers ever.
see also: www.hr95.org/dw101.htm
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Fri, December 17, 2004 - 2:33 PMfollowed by "Political Capital"
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Fri, December 17, 2004 - 6:50 PMDon't forget "gun control" -
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Fri, December 17, 2004 - 8:14 PM"bathroom" = it's the toilet. I don't see a bath in there [usually]. and I'm not planning on getting in the tub!
more harmful euphamisms:
"democracy" = hospitable to American economic and political interests.
"use of force" = war. let's just admit it.
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Sat, December 18, 2004 - 3:03 PMyeah! 'going to the bathroom' is the *dumbest* euphemism ever. -
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Sun, December 19, 2004 - 2:42 AMI agree. Bathroom, washroom, restroom.
I'm not going to have a bath there.
I might wash but that's not why I'm going there.
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Mon, December 20, 2004 - 11:20 AMthere are restrooms that are actually for resting. like the one in the Macy's or Holt Renfrew in downtown SF. there is a lovely lounge with couches and chairs and little coffeetables and magazines and stuff when you enter through the door that says Women.
it can be a very nice place to rest while shopping (or while being dragged around by someone else who is shopping).
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Tue, April 12, 2005 - 4:24 PMThere's a Dr Seuss cartoon in which one of the young characters has to pee late at night and must leave the main dwelling to "go to the euphemism." I think I was eight when I heard that and incorrectly called bathrooms/toiletss/outhouses euphemisms for some time.
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Thu, March 8, 2007 - 1:46 AM
Girl is goiing to the "bathroom" to *powder her nose*; I really doubt IT.
Victor
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Sun, December 19, 2004 - 4:48 AMI like to say, "I'm going to skip to the loo."
I also have been enamored of the workd "lavatory" since I learned it in first grade. But it means washroom, too, (laver=wash).
Oh wait. This is the detested euphemisms thread. Not the beloved euphemisms thread. So sorry.
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Re: your most detested bullshit euphemism
Tue, April 8, 2008 - 5:27 PMI think in some cases these aren't euphemisms, they're legitimate terms that have either become outdated or have been expanded to adjust for the times.
For example, "bathroom" isn't a euphemism. it's a descriptive term. the room with the bath in it. we adopted it to mean any room that had a toilet in it, so it's no longer an accurate term. but it's not meant as a hush-hush term. in some places it's actually considered vulgar to say "bathroom".
now "restroom", that IS a euphemism. um, ;) I'm not so much resting there as expelling my body of waste at a rapid rate. I'm just sitting down because it's easier that way. as is "powder room"... like women have a whole room dedicated to just powder. we do our icky pissing business elsewhere. ;)
"family planning" isn't a euphemism. it's a term that's been created to encompass the wide range of
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