The Britanny Spears Continuum

topic posted Sat, February 17, 2007 - 1:34 PM by  Jon
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The Britanny Spears Continuum

Brittany Spears has shaved her head:

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070...tney_spears

I felt the event needed to be honored with a haiku.

Smile: Brittany Spears!
Brittany Spears Shaves Her Head Bald!
Brewing Meltdown Joy!
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Jon
offline Jon
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  • Re: The Britanny Spears Continuum

    Sun, February 18, 2007 - 7:05 AM
    ... although I do find the archetypal psychology/ symbolism/ imagery of a pin-up girl cutting off all her hair interesting.
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      Re: The Britanny Spears Continuum

      Sun, February 18, 2007 - 1:09 PM
      I thought the lines of a haiku are not supposed to be related?
      • Re: The Britanny Spears Continuum

        Sun, February 18, 2007 - 3:45 PM
        A 17-syllable poem The world's shortest poetic form consists of five, seven, and five syllables arranged in three lines.

        Matsuo Basho established the haiku as a great literary form by expressing profound truths in the simplest of natural images.

        Every haiku has at least one word indicating the season.

        www.google.ca/search
        • Re: The Britanny Spears Continuum

          Sun, February 18, 2007 - 6:01 PM
          Thank you, Frank. Too many people are taught in public school that a haiku is simply a 3 line poem with a certain syllable count. The seasonal word, kiga, isn't used, and the idea of emotion expressed subtly, through nature imagery, is lost. Walter Liggett calls the Western form "bastard haiku." Liggett is proud of bastard haiku and is called a master. He and another white American poet, Louis Cuneo, are fierce rivals, yet neither writes classical haiku. When Cuneo is introduced at open mics as "the Haiku Master of Berkeley" (self-proclaimed) Liggett leaves the room in a huff.

          The term "haiku" is essentially meaningless when applied to poetry in English, in my opinion.


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        Re: The Britanny Spears Continuum

        Mon, February 19, 2007 - 2:54 PM
        And, if I remember the "rules" of Haiku correctly, it's okay if the lines are related. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's Tanka that is supposed to have unrelated lines.
  • Re: The Britanny Spears Continuum

    Mon, February 19, 2007 - 10:43 AM
    Hi Folks...

    I re-read this thread...

    I just wrote this thing as a quick and silly joke.

    I shaved my head once, I have plenty of friends who have done the same - I am not against punk culture or anything, by any means! I used to perform with plenty of folks on the punk rock scene and I would feel really offended if folks thought I was anti-punk or something.

    Some of my punk buddies were friends of GreenDay and GreenDay got them into the Warped Tour. They were really cool - young kids, like 15. A couple of them used to go to anti-Ku Klux Klan rallies. They were extremely cool and humble folks.

    I performed with a guitarist who also went on the Warped Tour and played with punk bands, etc.

    As far as Britney Spears herself is concerned...sure, I think her getting her head shaved is an extremely cool thing! I think it expressed freedom and independence and her willingness to shave her head while her previous hair was part of her image is a bold thing to do.

    As to the assumption that I misspelled Britney's name as "Britanny" to gather an extra syllable to create a poem? I have no idea why someone would assume such a thing. Do folks consciously manipulate things in order to create a juvenile piece of comedy for fun?
    Who pays enough attention to the process to do such a thing? I certainly don't. I don't assume what other people's motivations are and I hope others would grant me the same consideration.

    I used to run Amnesty International Group 309 and through them I gave a talk at a local library about women's rights. I also was a case worker for three different battered women. One of these women was in imminent threat of death from her father (her abuser) and I had to take many risks to protect her life. My cousin was the activist who broke the Glen Ridge Rape case nationally. And I went down to the Newark courthouse to be a presence at the trial one day. So, I am actually a feminist and proud to say it...

    As far as haiku goes, I deeply respect the form. Frankly, I think most of what people write and call "haiku" are just poems in a 5 - 7 - 5 form. I think true haiku goes far beyond that. Frankly, I find it extremely difficult to write anything that conforms to the form. Though I have written a bunch of 5 - 7 -5 poems (both serious and comedic) I don't know that I ever have written a true haiku...but I throw in a few of my serious 5-7-5 poems below...

    vaulting height moon view
    white grey, a soft white light peace
    blue canopy sky

    sky vast vast high height
    tiny black dotted sky flight
    wisps, vaulted power

    The Red Sharp Shock Orange
    Fall Maple Leaves by Hundreds!
    All stop stark against sky


    Respectfully,


    Jon




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      Re: The Britanny Spears Continuum

      Mon, February 19, 2007 - 2:53 PM
      Don't worry so much! I don't think anyone was criticizing you. I certainly wasn't. And, it's probably sad that I knew automatically that you'd spelled "Britney" incorrectly. Damn my TV obsession!

      As for Haiku, I really enjoy it. I write it, but I wouldn't say that you'd be sticking any of mine next to any of the masters'. And... Anyone who actually gets their panties in a bunch about how my (and your) Haiku about Britney aren't *really* Haiku need to step off just a bit and find a real problem to worry about, like the misuse of apostrophes or Darfur or something.
      • Re: The Britanny Spears Continuum

        Mon, February 19, 2007 - 3:19 PM
        hahaha. My entire knowledge of haiku could fit into about 17 syllables. And yet I feel no shame (even if I should). Hallelujah to those who know more! I'm always happy to be enlightened. I rarely get my panties in a bunch anymore about much of anything, especially the ins and outs of literary style. Wearing a thong helps that. Or those cute tanga ones. All those with advanced degrees in English say "I," and you'll find that a lot of us are out reading nasty romance and mystery novels, having had far too many rules and too many of those pesky literary novels thrust upon us as undergrads. Anyway, back to the regularly scheduled programming. :-)
        • Re: The Britanny Spears Continuum

          Mon, February 19, 2007 - 5:12 PM
          Word Freaks Semantics
          Thick like winters flurried snow
          Thought words meant something

          Personally I have never like Hikoos or any such constraint. In fact, thats the first one I have ever tried. I free form since I am mostly ilitterate, I can't spell either (ether is tough too) and I seldom try...but I love the dictionary. Teachers have never appreciated my approach to learning so obviously, I had no class when it came time for continued education.

          I mostly needed to define the word so that I knew what it was myself. I thought others might enjoy it as well. Years ago when I was involved in open mics hicues became way too popular and over used, so I never botherd to consider them worth investigating enough to understand the idea behind them.

          I probably won't
          Dry summer desert to plain
          Nothing that moving
          • Re: The Britanny Spears Continuum

            Tue, February 20, 2007 - 2:30 AM
            Hi Frank! You must be the person Jon kept referring to "frankly". I have a learning disability that makes it hard to read poorly spelled writing. My husband can't spell for beans, either. He turned me on to the Google toolbar, which spell checks posts. It's a free download. Even good spellers need help once in a while. Spelling has nothing to do with creativity or writing ability. My husband is a terrific writer; he's just dyslexic. However writing is communication, so why not make things easier on your readers? I recommend the Google toolbar to everyone, out of pure selfishness.

            Beat poets believed that the first haiku you write are the best ones. Haiku are supposed to be fresh and spontaneous, like yours. Old time Japanese poets used to have moon viewing parties, where they would drink sake and compose haiku. One elderly haiku master died drunk in a row boat with his friends, leaning back to gaze at the moon as he spoke his spontaneous poem about her beauty... leaning back a little more, a little more... fell in! and his friends were all too elderly and drunk to save him.

            That's the way a poet should go.
    • Re: The Britanny Spears Continuum

      Tue, February 20, 2007 - 2:35 AM
      I wasn't criticizing you, Jon. Just the state of haiku. I actually subscribe to the theory that haiku in English can have less than 17 syllables, since English is spoken more slowly than Japanese. 17 is the maximum. Here's an old haiku, suitable for the time of year, at least here, where the Lunar New Year is warm and the tree frogs sing all night:

      under the full moon
      the three tenors sing--
      in the frog pond

      Copyright 2000 Dozo the Clown
  • Re: The Britanny Spears Continuum

    Tue, February 20, 2007 - 7:04 AM
    If you're finding it hard to understand Britney's headspace, check out today's verbotomy at:

    www.verbotomy.com/verboticisms.php

    Today's challenge is to invent a word which fits this definition: "A state of reduced mental capacity, caused by an inability to think of anything but an annoying pop song, which seems to be endlessly repeating itself in your mind."

    So far some the invented words include Stupiditty, Ineptitune, Melodiocy and Riftthead. Perhaps this is what is afflicting poor Britney...

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