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Dictionaries

topic posted Mon, November 7, 2011 - 12:12 PM by  DuckAmuck
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Anyone else notice that words that didn't use to be in the dictionary are starting to be added?
Is anyone else bothered by this?

Are there any "pure" repositories of our (English) language anymore?
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DuckAmuck
Illinois
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  • Re: Dictionaries

    Mon, November 7, 2011 - 10:53 PM
    At what point in time would you define the English language as "pure"?

    and

    What criteria would you use to define it as such?
    • Re: Dictionaries

      Tue, November 8, 2011 - 1:59 PM
      Aha, semantics difference.

      I have not – and would never – describe the English LANGUAGE as pure.

      I'm looking for a repository – book or collection – of the words in our language that don't include things that for a great while were not considered "words."
      - D'oh is in the dictionary as a word now
      It's probably only a matter of time before "brung" is in there.
      • Re: Dictionaries

        Tue, November 8, 2011 - 3:37 PM
        Which dictionary are you using?
        • Re: Dictionaries

          Tue, November 8, 2011 - 10:18 PM
          And what dictionary do you want? For which year or time period?

          And even fhen, I must say, I don't see any way of being satisfied if you really love and understand language.

          To quote E.L.O., it's a living thing.
          • Re: Dictionaries

            Tue, November 8, 2011 - 11:07 PM
            "To quote E.L.O., it's a living thing. "

            Indeed it is.

            While wikifishing and pursuing a query, I found this:


            www.makeuseof.com/dir/lexip...ictionary/

            My query if anyone can help...

            Many months ago I heard about a new type of interactive dictionary.
            You provide it a picture of a particular "whatchamacallit" that you would like to know the name and proper use of.
            Apparently, it can provide you with that information.

            Unfortunately, I have forgotten the name of this resource and have been unsuccessful in my search for it.
  • Re: Dictionaries

    Tue, November 8, 2011 - 10:48 PM
    Oops, sorry.
    I should have noticed that “pure”described repositories rather than the English language.


    <"pure" repositories of our (English) language>

    The above Google query produced 42,700.000 results.

    Duck: your post in this tribe was ranked 5th.

    This looks promising:

    books.google.com/books

    it references the work of Noah Webster, Esq. circa 1809.

    I also wonder which is the “our (English) language you refer to?

    The English of England.
    The English of United Kingdom and all of the Commonwealth.
    Australian English.
    The English Of New Zealand.
    North American English


    Hmmm?
    • Re: Dictionaries

      Tue, November 8, 2011 - 10:51 PM
      Oops again.

      <I also wonder which is the “our (English) language you refer to?>

      I meant:

      “our (English) language".
    • Re: Dictionaries

      Tue, November 15, 2011 - 1:31 PM
      Yes, I knew one of you would be so kind as to point out the variations simply in saying "English language."

      I don't know. Personally, I feel that "mainstream" dictionaries – like Webster's – really started allowing in questionable words somewhere in the 90s.

      Likely there's someone of the previous generation who would point at sometime in the 70s or 80s… or sooner.

      And I feel that social networking is just going to make it worse. Pretty soon, LOL will be allowed in Scrabble... and that's just wrong.
      • Re: Dictionaries

        Thu, November 17, 2011 - 12:41 AM
        Doesn't Scrabble and similar word games allow certain acronyms, including radar, sonar, fubar, etc.?

        And if the Oxford English Dictionary can accept LOL, why can't Scrabble and similar word games?

        As long as English is spoken, it will evolve. Change may be difficult, but as humans flexibility is what keeps our species able to adapt.

        Anyway back in the 1960s LOL stood for little old lady. Too bad that meaning has been forgotten.
        • Re: Dictionaries

          Fri, November 18, 2011 - 1:00 PM
          In my personal opinion, LOL shouldn't be counted as a word as long as we continue to pronounce it "ell-oh-ell."
          (Unless we add another h and go with ell-oh-hell.)

          At least radar isn't "ar-ay-dee-ay-ar."

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